React: WLC on Abortion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQdya6etl1I

1) How do you reconcile the doctrine of hell with the idea that humans (including the damned, presumably) have intrinsic value? Wouldn't damnation be treating humans as a means to an end, that end being God's justice, instead of as an end unto themselves? (Craig, rejecting universalism, backs himself into a corner from which he cannot escape.)

2) When you say humans have intrinsic value, what does the word 'intrinsic' mean here? What would be lost if we simply said humans have value? If you mean that humans are _instantiations_ of value, then this is clearly false. We can imagine a world where God sends every human to hell where they are tortured forever. How can humans be instantiations of value when all they do is generate misery? A nightmare world full of infinite pointless suffering is infinitely worse, more disvaluable, than a world with nothing in it. Not only do humans not add any value whatever to the nightmare world, but they drive its disvalue through their pointless suffering.

Ah, so it's positive experiences, or happiness, not persons, that are instantiations of value, and negative experiences, or pains, that are instantiations of disvalue. Humans are extrinsically valuable, and the value states they generate are intrinsically valuable.

3) How does forced birth treat pregnant women as an end unto themselves and not as a means to an end of reproduction?

4) What are rights? Are they abstract entities floating in a Platonic realm somewhere? (Craig rejects Platonism, so no). How does having intrinsic value (which humans do not have, as that makes no sense) transfer one of these magical rights to you? Rights are social, legal constructs granted and revoked by states, nothing more.

5) Practically speaking, let's say you force millions of unwanted pregnancies [over the years. In the US there are roughly one million abortions a year. At least, that was the rate prior to the overturning of Roe v Wade]. How does that work out? Are pro-lifers forced to pay for childcare costs and build and volunteer at foster homes, since they are the ones who believe in forced birth? If you force those who vote pro-life to put their money where their mouth is, I guarantee you overnight nearly everyone would vote pro-choice.